Jeffrey Epstein’s former associate Ghislaine Maxwell directly stated in a Department of Justice (DOJ) interview that she never saw US President Donald Trump in “any inappropriate setting.” The DOJ released both the transcript and audio recordings of her testimony on Friday, offering the public a rare look at the two-day questioning that took place on July 24 and 25.
Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, who conducted the interview, explained that Maxwell’s limited immunity only allowed her to speak freely about her criminal case. He emphasized, “The most important part of this agreement is that this isn’t a cooperation agreement … I’m not promising to do anything.” Blanche later published the material on X (formerly Twitter), saying he acted “in the interest of transparency.”
The release included heavily redacted transcripts and multiple audio files: seven sections plus test recordings for the first day, and four sections plus tests for the second.
In the interest of transparency, @TheJusticeDept is releasing the complete transcript and audio of my proffer of Ms. Maxwell. The transcript and audio are linked below.https://t.co/TQW5migemm
— Todd Blanche (@DAGToddBlanche) August 22, 2025
Maxwell Defends Trump’s Conduct
Maxwell, now 63 years old, is serving a 20-year prison sentence after her 2022 conviction on five counts, including sex trafficking of minors. She played a key role in helping Epstein lure and abuse underage girls. Epstein died by suicide in a Manhattan federal jail in 2019 while awaiting trial, a death that triggered widespread conspiracy theories because of his political and social connections.
Despite her conviction, Maxwell gave Trump a clean slate in her interview. She told investigators, “I actually never saw the president in any type of massage setting. I never witnessed the president in any inappropriate setting in any way. The president was never inappropriate with anybody.”
She admitted that Trump and Epstein were socially friendly but insisted they were not close. “I don’t know how they met, and I don’t know how they became friends … they seemed friendly. I don’t think they were close friends. I don’t recall ever seeing him in Epstein’s house,” she clarified.
Clinton’s Connection Questioned
Investigators also pressed Maxwell about Epstein’s friendship with former President Bill Clinton, who traveled multiple times on Epstein’s private plane, often referred to as the “Lolita Express.” Clinton has denied any misconduct.
Maxwell described her relationship with Clinton as warm, saying, “President Clinton liked me, and we got along terribly well. But I never saw that warmth … with Epstein.”
When asked about Epstein’s 50th birthday book — a scrapbook of letters and tributes from his circle — Maxwell insisted that she never saw Trump’s name in it. This statement directly contradicted a Wall Street Journal report in July that claimed the book included a letter with Trump’s name. Trump denied the Journal’s claim, sued the newspaper for libel, and continues to insist he had nothing to do with it.
Maxwell explained that she suggested the birthday book as an idea, recalling, “He said, I love that idea,” when she proposed it, similar to how her mother had once made one for her father.
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Surprise Prison Transfer
After the DOJ interview, authorities abruptly transferred Maxwell from a low-security prison in Florida to a minimum-security prison camp in Texas. The Bureau of Prisons gave no explanation, and her lawyers stayed silent, which raised eyebrows among Trump critics who view the move as unusual.
The testimony offers Trump some political breathing room as critics continue to demand the release of the so-called “Epstein Files,” a trove of documents that could reveal more about Epstein’s powerful associates. Maxwell’s comments may help Trump distance himself from Epstein at a time when opponents are trying to tie him to the scandal.
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