“I Need to Fire More People”: HHS Secretary Kennedy Defends CDC Purge in Heated Senate Hearing

In a contentious Senate hearing, U.S. Senators from both parties confronted Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. over his controversial actions on vaccine policy, creating a complex political divide where Republicans sought to praise former President Trump's vaccine initiative while condemning Kennedy's anti-vaccine stance.

The hearing highlighted the intense scrutiny and turmoil surrounding the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) since Kennedy's confirmation.

What is the Republican Strategy?

Republican senators, particularly physicians Bill Cassidy (R-LA) and John Barrasso (R-WY), employed a specific tactic. They first lavished praise on Operation Warp Speed, President Trump's 2020 initiative that accelerated COVID-19 vaccine development. Cassidy even stated Trump deserved a Nobel Peace Prize for it and secured agreement from Kennedy.

Then, they pivoted to confront Kennedy’s long history of vaccine skepticism. Cassidy directly challenged Kennedy on his past claim that the vaccines had killed more people than COVID-19—a statement Kennedy denied making. This approach allowed them to criticize Kennedy’s policies without criticizing Trump, whose endorsement was key to Kennedy's nomination.

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What Did Kennedy Say About Vaccines?

Under fierce questioning, Kennedy’s position appeared nuanced. He initially hesitated to agree that the vaccines saved lives but later acknowledged they prevented deaths, though he said he "could not quantify" how many. This stance contradicts a major study published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases, which found COVID vaccines saved an estimated 14.4 million lives globally in their first year.

Kennedy instead argued that the CDC "lied to Americans" during the pandemic regarding mask-wearing, boosters, social distancing, and initial hopes that the vaccines prevented transmission. He defended his widespread personnel changes as necessary to reform the agency.

Why is the CDC in Such Turmoil?

The CDC is facing significant instability due to Kennedy's actions, which include:

• Firing Director Susan Monarez: Trump fired Monarez after she resisted policy changes she believed contradicted scientific evidence. In a Wall Street Journal op-ed, Monarez alleged she was directed to preapprove vaccine recommendations, calling it a push to weaken U.S. vaccine standards. Kennedy denied this.
• Purging a Key Panel: Kennedy dismissed all 17 members of the CDC's independent vaccine advisory panel, replacing some with known anti-vaccine activists.
• Canceling Critical Research: Kennedy defended his decision to cancel $500 million in funding for research on mRNA technology, the foundation of the most effective COVID-19 vaccines.
• Triggering a Staff Exodus: The firing of Monarez prompted the resignation of four other senior CDC officials, who cited the administration's anti-vaccine policies and misinformation.

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Who is Calling for Kennedy to Resign?

The hearing began with Democratic Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) calling for Kennedy’s resignation, a demand echoed by other senators and over 1,000 current and former health officials. Critics argue his actions have dangerously politicized public health and undermined scientific integrity.

Even Senator Cassidy, who was the deciding vote for Kennedy’s confirmation after receiving assurances he wouldn't interfere with vaccine policy, expressed deep concern. Cassidy stated the upheaval at CDC "warrants oversight," signaling potential future investigations.

The hearing revealed a department at war with itself, caught between scientific consensus and the political ideology of its leadership, leaving its future and the nation's public health infrastructure on unstable ground.